The Dread Pro-Se Kimberlin had a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day in court on 1 July. This extract from pp. 49 and 50 of the transcript of that hearing transcript in the Kimberlin v. Walker, et al. nuisance suit captures the general flavor of that day—
THE COURT: Now — okay. So what you’re saying is judge, he hasn’t given me any of this. The motions are right because this is all we have.
MR. OSTRONIC: This is all anybody has.
THE COURT: We have a bare bone pleading —
MR. OSTRONIC: This is all you’re going to see, this is all I have, this is all he’s provided.
THE COURT: Barebones pleading and the pleadings are insufficient.
MR. OSTRONIC: Yes, your honor.
THE COURT: On the remaining counts.
MR. OSTRONIC: Yes, your honor.
MR. KIMBERLIN: And —
THE COURT: And the plaintiff is saying I haven’t given you those documents because there’s too many. That’s what I’m kind of hearing.
MR. OSTRONIC: Your honor —
THE COURT: Right, Mr. Kimberlin?
MR. KIMBERLIN: Well I filed for a protective order. And I said, number one —
THE COURT: Your brought the action, sir.
MR. KIMBERLIN: I know. I’m saying protective order for — against discovery.
THE COURT: What are you trying to protect?
MR. KIMBERLIN: Against —
THE COURT: You’re saying that this is the most outrageous thing in the world, all of these tweets daily, threaten you, saying that you’re a rapist, you’re a pedophile, you’re a perjurer, you’re this —
MR. KIMBERLIN: Yes.
THE COURT: — you’re worse than Al Capone.
MR. KIMBERLIN: Yes.
THE COURT: And yet you offer no proof of all of this defamatory documents to the defendant.
MR. KIMBERLIN: Your honor —
THE COURT: And you want him to go to trial and just have you stand up and tell the jury that you’ve gotten all those things out there, and you think that’s going to be sufficient?
It’s entirely possible that much worse days are ahead for TDPK. He has no credible evidence to support any of his claims. Meanwhile, the evidence on the other side of each of his three lawsuits is snowballing.
That explains maybe some of the sockery that went on this week.
In my opinion, it looks like TDPK is trying to manufacture evidence. New people are popping up on Twitter, leaving tweets that are dangerously close to threats, if not threats outright. These just in time for TDPK to point to after stating he needed protection from threats. He needs everything sealed. Something smells rotten in Maryland. And it ain’t just the justice system.
They will smear innocent people by association with the worst crap they can think up.
Whenever their cases turn the wrong way, or at least when it becomes so obvious they realize it, they start this crap.
There is no reason to hope for anything but normal, lawful, justice, through our processes, and free speech. Those who are acting like it’s time for desperate threats or say racist crap, are doing so in hopes of smearing the good guys by association. Or they have no brains.
he can sock puppet manufacture all the “threats” he wants… NONE of it is traceable to any of the people he has named in his suit.
Claiming the accurate information they have written/blogged/posted about him as being somehow the “cause” of the unwanted attention he claims he is getting is weak tea at best, irrelevant at worst and since it’s a matter of documented history, his own fault for doing the things he did….
Is it too late for him to add The Internet as a defendant?
Transcript linked anywhere?
Snowballing or Tsunami – hope he waxed his board
The entire transcript isn’t online yet and probably won’t be until after the case is decided. It seems that TDPK doesn’t accurately remember everything that was said and that his faulty memory may be responsible for some of his mistakes. Also, the more folks comment on his errors, the great the chance he will correct some of them.
Please be patient. I must wait to tell the whole story until it’s too late to help TDPK.
Hope you are already writing the book…
How to Stuff an Online Pedophiliac Terrorist in Ten Easy Steps
Can I at least say that he’s a blithering idiot and the court sees it, too?
Reblogged this on Dead Citizen's Rights Society.
“He has no credible evidence to support any of his claims.”
I actually disagree here… he has mountains of credible evidence to support parts of his claims (he didn’t turn it over though). The major problem he has is that he has zero credible evidence to support at least one or more essential elements of his claim. If he can’t prove all of the elements, by law he is not entitled to relief. It isn’t enough to say they called me bad things (for which there may be evidence) and it isn’t true (for which he likely has no evidence). E.g. If you have called BK a convicted perjurer and domestic terrorist, both are actionable statements if said about someone who is neither a convicted perjurer nor serial bomber who terrorized a small town. BK’s fundamental problem, again, and again, is that many, if not all, of the claims made against him are demonstrably true, and he can’t prove they aren’t true, which is his burden at trial.
Even the less provable statements about him were often couched with terms that would prevent them from being actionable and/or are statements he cannot prove are not true based on the mountains of circumstantial evidence against him, such as the allegations that he has a proclivity towards teenage girls.The amount of circumstantial evidence to support that assertion is pretty vast when you consider what was written about BK in Citizen K, the statements made by his current wife surrounding her age when they were married, and his own words about desires to become intimate with teenage girls which BK believes – or at least stated to a reporter – that every man shares with him(see here: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/9854/jailbird-rock).
BK could go before a jury and have someone else testify, truthfully, that he is not a convicted pedophile. He is not a convicted pedophile… (in the style of Gilbert Gottfried ‘There is no truth to the rumor that BRETT KIMBERLIN IS A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE. No matter what you do, please do not REPEAT BRETT KIMBERLIN IS A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE. I have no idea why PEOPLE KEEP SAYING BRETT KIMBERLIN IS A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE!’) The fact is, he is not a convicted pedophile, nevertheless, I think he would have a difficult time convincing people that the label pedophile is unfair or not-true as applied to him based on the many statements he has made as well as his own actions. My opinion isn’t actionable either.
In any event, I look forward to reading about how the remaining counts are dismissed on the motion for Summary Judgment.
Brett Kimberlin? Convicted pedophile? No. Just convicted serial bomber, perjurer, consumer of presidential seal (I think that’s an endangered species, by the way) and creepy failed rock singer.
As ALL the defendants made very clear in their writings, Brett Kimberlin is not, a “convicted” pedophile… Remember Bill Murray in Stripes.
Recruiter:Have you ever been convicted of a felony….
Murray: Convicted….? No.
Ramus: Never convicted. (Bill smiles a very big smile.)
It’s possible that he isn’t a convicted possible because he conspired to murder the person who would testify about him being a pedophile, then engaged in a series of terrorist bombings to direct police attention away from the murder investigation.
You know, in theory.
The phrase “unintended consequences” comes to mind.
I disagree with those who figure he has no evidence for his accusations. He actually has no accusations. The defendants are left with an obvious conclusion: Given Brett Kimberlin’s misdeeds, the only way to avoid being sued by Brett Kimberlin is to avoid writing about Brett Kimberlin.
Which is, of course, the entire point to his lawfare.
Oh yes, I just hope a judge gets it.