When the Hunters Become the Hunted


M. D. Kittle reports that the Wisconsin prosecutors who have been running the politically inspired John Doe investigations against various conservative organizations are not having a good time.

Some say the prosecutors, not used to being on the defensive, are sounding a little nervous these days, maybe even hostile. Their filings in federal court of late come across as condescending, and testy.

Read the whole thing.

74 thoughts on “When the Hunters Become the Hunted

  1. Welcome to slime ball Wisconsin politics. These is type of stuff we’ve dealt with in Wisconsin since 2010. These “John Doe” investigations are just some of it. The Wisconsin democrats are pretty butthurt still about getting their asses handed to them in 2010 when we flipped this entire state from Blue To Red and then we spanked them again in the June 2012 recalls,and local Nov 2012 elections.

  2. Wisconsin has a long history as a progressive state. Between them and the Obama administration led by the IRS, there is a viciousness that the progressives exhbit. They forget that they are public servants. Eric Holder and the New Black Panther Party set the tone.

  3. Well speaking of hunting:

    https://twitter.com/wmsbroadcasting/status/489847730424913921

    Some of us have been hunting for possible libelous statement made toward Bill in this blog.

    Bill, you were asked over and over for specific example of any actual libelous statements from Mr. Hoge and maybe a few from the people you were “forced” to dox. What comments would you consider worthy of moderation, and why?

    If you want commenters on Hoge’s blog to stop libeling you, you have to tell us exactly what we are saying that you consider libel. Otherwise, this looks like nothing more than a game you are using to shut us up.

    So, unless we are given specific examples of libelous statement made in the comments on this blog or the blog itself in the past week by 6 PM Eastern Time, we will be forced to conclude you are not serious about preventing damaging statements and only interested in shutting us up, contra our First Amendment rights.

    Let the countdown begin.

    (John, if I overstepped my bounds here, feel free to delete or otherwise alter this post)

    • How the heck does he get 81 pages from less than 200 comments, many only a line or two? Is he printing them in 20pt type, two to a page?

      • OK, to be fair, when I told my computer to print that post now, with all the comments since he printed it, I get 72 pages. I guess he’s including every page of every post.

        But if he thinks every one of those comments proves IIED, he’s going to have to show how comments about ponies hurt him, and also pay for a doctor of John’s choosing to examine him to prove his declining health. That his own doctor has already told him to drop it or else, suggests that he is at least partly responsible, and that would cut any award because of his own contributory negligence.

    • I’m sure that John and his commenters could produce a far, far larger quantity of truly libelous stuff by Bill than Bill can by us. I’d hazard the difference would be measured in orders of magnitude because I suspect Bill has nothing that meets the legal requirements for libel.

    • Sorry about the downtwinkles. I can’t seem to reverse it, either because I repeatedly fat-finger, or my phone hates me, take your pick. I’m exasperated!

      • LOL! I fat-fingered A Reader comment yesterday.

        “Krendler” (oogiddy boodigy boo) actually down twinkled my fat-finger, down-twinkle confession yesterday — which prompted me to down twinkle my own down-twinkle confession — and, lo-and-behold all was right with wrongly-placed, down-twinkle happenings, and the world again.

        BTW — The above is my down twinkle to your down-twinkle confession.

        You’re welcome. 😉

  4. 3 hours Bill. You’d better hurry. Admitting you have no evidence of libelous posts is going to hurt.

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  6. https://twitter.com/wmsbroadcasting/status/490226777764016128

    How did he find me out!!! Curses, Schmalfeldt.

    But I’m not surprised you took the coward’s way out. You always do. Face it, there are NO libelous statements in those “boxes” of paper you allegedly have, which means, of course, you don’t have anything!

    It is safe to say that the commenters here are free to continue to comment as they already have, since Bill is unable to put forth a single example of speech that isn’t protected.

    So Bill, next time you want to tell Mr. Hoge that he needs to moderate his comments, think back to your response here, and SHUT THE HELL UP.

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  8. Wow, Deranged Cyberstalker, Adjudicated Harasser, World Famous Ass Man, Celebrated Gay Pornography Enthusiast and Two-Time Cuckold Champion (Heavyweight Division) Bill Schmalfeldt’s amended counterclaim is a wonder of typos, selective reporting, half-truths, and all-around hilarity.

    No mention was made of exactly what Paul was parodying, which will be an issue. Billy’s original “satire” and his refusal to acknowledge it go further to his character. The fact that he took it down is mitigating, but only slightly, especially when seen alongside his other journalistic and satirical works (I use both words ironically, of course.)

    Then there’s librarygryffon’s point about medical damage, which will be fun and very, very expensive to prove. It also allows cross-examination on any advice he’s received to chill out and what effects that his admitted refusal to do so has contributed to his condition. Then John gets to ask what following through on his threat to sue everybody here (which will also be problematic and expensive for reasons that I won’t get into here) are likely to do to health.

    Oh, and motive! Who engaged who first and why? I seem to remember Billy saying that if everybody forgot that Brett Kimberlin existed, no one would be investigating (i’m paraphrasing from memory.)

    And I can certify that Hoge does moderate comments for content. One of mine was held for at least seven hours yesterday, and it was awesome!

    I suspect this isn’t going to the way Boy Bill thinks it will. And I haven’t even finished reading the counterclaim yet.

    • Oh, I almost forgot. There was no actual “depiction of the Counterclaim Plaintiff dreaming about sex with his late twin brother.” Only affectionate wrestling with a beloved sibling, as I read it.

      Some people have positively filthy imaginations! Where’s my fainting couch?.

    • But how did he find out I wasn’t really Perry Mason???

      What kind of dark magic is this!?

      • I’m not really Paul Krendler, either…keep that on the QT.

        I would say keep it under your hat, but you can see that didn’t work out too well for me.

      • It’s the magical power of JOURNALISM, Perry!

        Although, since Billy reported otherwise, i think you might actually be Perry Mason..Pretty much every journalistic prediction of the Kimberlin trials (and are journalists supposed to be in the prediction business?) turned out to be wrong. So Bill deleted them. .

      • I would say keep it under your hat, but you can see that didn’t work out too well for me.

        Ask Bill if he’d be willing to make a donation for a foreskin transplant. Looks like he’s got enough for your head and some nifty ear muffs, and maybe a matching muffler.

    • But back to the point at hand, everybody here (and any lurkers) knew that Bill wasn’t going to answer. And anybody with a passing familiarity of Bill would have known his pathetic and hypocritical answer.

      I hope everybody is screencapping that tweet so the next time he is DEMANDING AN ANSWER!!! from someone, you can politely post it and tell him to F— Off!

    • I don’t think Bill knows how trials work. He gets to make an assertion and the other side gets to challenge and discredit it. It’s the adversarial system. I thought they taught that in journalism school.

      Hey, do we know that Billy even WENT to journalism school? His pyramid structure sucks!

      • Fatboi went to the Fly By Midnite Journalism School on Wednesdays only…I bet all he got was Cracker Jack sticker to post on his wall or the Interwebz..

    • Please read this ^^^^ everyone – we should all be more wary of inadvertently helping the creeptastic, demented, cyberstalking, repeatedly adjudicated harasser, Bill Schmalfeldt and his felonious friend(s).

  9. I agree – some folks do just have to hate.
    https://twitter.com/wmsbroadcasting/status/490243537045168128

    BS, from his blog on Feb. 7, 2014:

    “Now, I will report aggressively on Brett Kimberlin’s lawsuit against Hoge and his co-defendants. But I will not be unbiased. I have news that I am sitting on until early next week. It is not good news for Hoge and his co-defendants. (I’ll tell you this much. I won’t say if it’s the state case, the RICO case, or both. Some will save themselves at the expense of others. This is not speculation.)
    And I can’t fucking WAIT until I can write about it without risking the outcome.
    And for every dollar Kimberlin takes from Hoge, for every piece of property Kimberlin takes from Hoge, for every bit of suffering Kimberlin causes Hoge, I will smile. I will laugh. God forgive me, I want the man to suffer. And according to this story I am sitting on, suffer he will.
    Remember where you read it.
    Suffer, he will. It won’t match what he’s done to me. But it will be a small measure of satisfaction to have lived long enough to see Karma bite him on his pockmarked, pimply ass.”

      • I remember that day!

        If I’m not mistaken, Bill launched into that attack after tweeting something like “It sure is quiet around here”. It was a day when all the Lickspittles were at work or otherwise busy with their real lives, so there were no posts on Hogewash, nor were there any tweets. So Bill, sooooo desirous of people just leaving him alone, PLEASE! JUST LEAVE ME ALONE!, grows bored and then launches into that attack on McCain, who hadn’t mentioned him in weeks!

        Yep, all Bill wants is to be left alone…..

  10. This is one of the things that BS does that I find so reprehensible: he distorts and grossly mischaracterizes what others say.

    Bill turns that into this:

    https://twitter.com/wmsbroadcasting/status/490248697566220289

    BS and Rick have had extensive Twitter conversations about their PD symptoms. Bill has admitted that he does not have tremors, and has posted videos about his symptoms. All conveniently ignored in order to pull in a third party.

    • Yes. They have had extensive Twitter conversations.

      Harada follows only 126 tweeps. There’s no way he/she/it missed ALL of the vile, harassing, stalking, d0xing, insulting, libelous tweets and lies from the Deranged Cyberstalker and Adjudicated Harasser Bill Schmalfeldt.

      He/she/it solely chimes in to come to BS’s defense. That account has NEVER called out BS for ANYthing — nor will it… ever.

      Newsflash: Harada is a liar.

  11. Gave the stuff Bill posted a quick read. Wow. Several deficiencies, and that’s with just a quick read. Don’t think the pro se canard will work.

    Good luck with that Bill.

  12. https://twitter.com/wmsbroadcasting/status/490248135206526976

    I don’t recall any responses from you concerning any actual libelous statement. I do recall, however, your treatise that went on for days (since DELETED) on how defamation wasn’t libel, or how libel wasn’t defamation. As a matter of fact I think you argued both sides of that at certain points in the discussion. IOW, you wouldn’t know libel if it was covered in mayonnaise. Which is why you continue to DEMAND John take down posts that ridicule you. He has no reason to do that because it’s protected speech, but in your world, it’s libel.

    But go ahead, give us your most libelous statement you’ve got from this site.

      • Wait till Willy finds out I’m actually Ironsides. When I show up in my wheelchair, he’ll need a new diaper.

        But don’t say anything, it’s going to be SUCH a surprise.

  13. TIME’S UP!

    By Bill’s reticence, we can now safely say that all statements on this blog concerning Bill are NOT libelous, and you can feel free to continue to post them, obviously using the same care (which I have not done recently) concerning actual libel laws and not the one’s Bill invents.

    SO LET IT BE WRITTEN, SO LET IT BE DONE.

    (Now excuse me while I go bang my gavel….)

    • You never know, Billy. Given your own counterclaim, and the statements therein, there are probably a few folks that you’ve interacted with that have grounds.

      Unless, of course, you think that your own counterclaim is nonsense.

      Funny how that works, innit?

      • The Deranged Cyberstalker, Adjudicated Harasser, World Famous Ass Man, Celebrated Gay Pornography Enthusiast and Two-Time Cuckold Champion (Heavyweight Division) Bill Schmalfeldt likes making Nazi analogies about his enemies. Maybe the biggest mistake Hitler made was fighting wars on multiple fronts.

        If you’re interested in how that works, ask your buddy Brett how much FUN he’s having answering dozens of motions at once, assuming that he has the time to answer.

        Do you need that stress, Billy? Thinking about all the people you got, and how they might all drag you into courts around the country, all at once? I didn’t think so. And if I were John, I’d have already had another peace order placed on you. For some reason, he hasn’t, but he could.

        Accordingly, you should be a good dog and play nice.

    • Sue? I have not – repeat, not – read a single offer to sue the deranged cyberstalker and adjudicated harasser. So far as I am aware, a few people have needed restraining orders, and our Host has needed to defend his intellectual property. But not one commenter has offered to sue.

      • True. But then I don’t think any of us are stupid enough to try the case on Twitter nor to telegraph our actions. I’m sure when Bill gets served, as he will at some point, it will be a total shock to him.

  14. https://twitter.com/wmsbroadcasting/status/490254692585603072

    What an odd thing to say. Who are these people you have “to keep tabs on” and why? Are you afraid they’ll keep making fun of you and calling you names? There’s nobody here you need to keep tabs on unless your doing it at the behest of someone else. You know, like this statement which pretty much started this whole thing with Hoge et.al.:

    If we would just leave Kimberlin alone, you wouldn’t have to “investigate” us? Is that it?

    Funny how it always comes back to the little terrorist.

    • Phrases like that could lead a judge to conclude that Boy William doesn’t really have a “reporter’s privilege” to invoke in the various and sundry Kimberlin trials, I suspect.

      Generally, journalists are disinterested parties who protect sources. That reads a lot like an editorial comment to me, to which no protection can be afforded.

    • But, but, but … Saint William of the Holy Trailer Park’s reputation is, what was the word he used? Sterling! That’s it. Oh, how forgetful I’ve grown in my dotage.

      Why if you just hear him describe himself, Bill’s practically Christ-like! I’ve heard fables that he wheel-walks on water, even.

      But what kind of a sterling character wishes “unremitting pain that no drug can quell?” Could it be that he isn’t of sterling character at all? Could it be that he’s a common sadist and a liar?

      Oh, my! Whatever will a jury think?

      On the other hand, I’m sure that mom, dad, big sis and Bobber are incredibly proud of how the Schmalfeldt banner is being carried into the world. Pleased as punch, I’d wager!

  15. Perry Mason (not really) wrote: “That seemed to bring Harada’s tweeting to a complete and sudden stop.”

    Funny that, huh?

    Truth serves as its own form of shutuppery at times. Heh.

  16. Speaking of SHUTUPPERY…

    Courtesy of CBBS:
    “An ORDER requiring Hoge and “Krendler” to REMOVE all mention by name, nickname, inference or any other fashion, any reference to William M. Schmalfeldt.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong here… but, wasn’t it the Deranged Cyberstalker and Adjudicated Harasser Bill Schmalfeldt who was recently laying a ginormous, mayo-covered egg when similar judicial edicts were handed down in the Roger Shuler case?

    Why, yes. Yes. I believe it was. *smdh*

  17. As a journalist of great standing in my imagination (which appears to be the same credentials Bill has), I have questions that I DEMAND answers to by 8:30 AM U.S EST. Because the Truth and Journalism demand satisfaction.

    1) What is it about the image of children wrestling that makes you think about homosexual incest?
    2) Why do you keep moving between the first and third person in your Second Amended Counterclaim?
    3) You misspelled “Schmalfeldt” in paragraph 83 of you Second Amended Complaint. Is that your true given surname? Are you an impostor, seeking to make the real William M. Schmalfedt look like a lunatic?
    4) When you found out that your first and second wives repeatedly cuckolded you, did it move a little. Each time?
    5) How many hours do you spend looking at gay pornography online to find the imagine that’s just right for you to superimpose the head of you disagree with on? Or do you produce the photographs personally?
    6) The focus of most of the activity in question 5 appears to be Ali Akbar. Is he your type?
    7) Can you produce death certificates for the members of your family that you say are dead?
    8) Are you now, or have you ever been remunerated by Brett Kimberlin in any way, or being a pathetic lackey to dwarves just something that comes naturally?
    9) Can’t you find a Keebler elf to suck up to?
    10) Are furious hatred and blind stupidity the only things left that make you feel alive?

    8:30 AM U.S EST, old boy. Deadlines, you know.

    • Warning, next time please! Oh my GOODNESS – LOL too, too, too – um, what’s the word I’m looking for? Oh yes – journalmalismish! hahahahaha

    • I have some follow-ups, Bill. I do hope you understand. Journalism can be tedious that way.

      11) Have you ever been diagnosed with the following; a) Manic Depression? b) Schizophrenia? c) Coprophilia? D) Siegfried on Roy Syndrome?
      12) When you were directly asked if you deleted tweets, you replied that it isn’t “your style.” When it was discovered that assertion was inaccurate, you called the questioner “a stalker.” Are you really that bad a liar?
      13) One of the elements of stalking is hunting another person down against their will, with the intent to do them some manner of harm. Are you familiar with that definition in an un-ironic way?
      14) When people read things you make public, you call them stalkers. Do you publish material with the intent to be ignored?
      15) Seriously, is Ali Akbar your type?
      16) You once said to another person in public, “I wish you a long miserable life and a slow, painful death from a prolonged disease in which you ooze puss from every orifice. Pain for you.” What makes you worthy of any human compassion?
      17) You have described yourself as “a person neither (Hoge and Krendler) has a legitimate quarrel with.” Given the things you’ve said and done towards Hoge prior to the issuance of the first peace order, that’s a blatant lie, isn’t it?
      18) You state in your Second Amended Counterclaim that your reputation is worth $3 million in compensatory damages. Are you a chronic user of LSD.
      19) What is with you and anuses, anyway? Did somebody touch you in a no-no place as a kid? Would you need a doll to demonstrate where?
      20) Akbar? Really?

      • I do love how his reputation has just been going up in price as the case goes on. First it was $1M, and now it’s $3M.

        Seriously. If he was hit by a bus tomorrow, his wife wouldn’t be able to get anything approaching that in a wrongful death suit. What makes him think his reputation is worth more than his life?

        I’m sure the judge or, God forbid it goes that far, jury will be just fascinated to evaluate that “sterling” reputation what with getting to read the reasons he was banned from DKos and the Examimer, not to mention the restraining orders, and the doxings, etc., etc., etc.

        • Ah, but he’s a Hero of Journalism. Ask any one of his 26 Twitter followers! They’ll tell you! And he’s been breaking all the most important stories about anuses and guys who like things on Facebook for years now! And where else would you learn about all of the bad things hat could possibly happen to Patrick Frey and Ken White, if not from Bill?

          That’s got to be worth a million five from each counterclaim defendant, doesn’t it? The man’s obviously a national treasure.

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